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Project Skara: What do the experts have to say?

Eirini-Eleni Papadopoulou
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Last month, the JDK team made a call for discussion in order to investigate a number of options for JDK source code management. But is it time to retire Mercurial in favor of Git? Let’s have a closer look at what the experts had to say on that and what the community’s reaction has been so far.

Update August 15, 2018

It has already been three weeks since the JDK team launched the discussion in order to investigate alternatives for JDK source code management and the community seems to have made up its mind. Or has it?

On the one hand, the results of the JAXenter poll seem to be pretty clear. Git wins. That’s it. No further explanation needed.

On the other hand, the three interviews we had with Java experts paint a not-so-crystal-clear picture. Let me explain.

In the first interview, we talked to Java Champion and JavaOne Rock Star speaker Stephen Colebourne, who seems to be rather enthusiastic about the prospect of migrating JDK source code management to Git.

From my perspective, I think using Git instead of Mercurial is a great idea. I can’t see any case to move to any other SCM.

Stephen Colebourne

However, for our second interview, we caught up with OpenJDK Author Patrick Reinhart who based his view mostly on the popularity of Git as opposed to Mercurial.

For new contributors, Git seems to be more tool-friendly than Mercurial is at the moment.

Patrick Reinhart

For our last interview, that went online just yesterday, we talked to OpenJDK committer Thomas Stüfe, who seems to have a rather conservative opinion on the matter.

 I see no pressing technical reasons to switch to Git. I work with both SCMs and to me, none has a clear lead in performance or functionality.

Thomas Stüfe

The interview responses seem to be in total progression here: Git is great! – It makes sense, I guess. – I see no reason to change.

You may think that we did that on purpose but, trust me, we didn’t!

Is this mini-interview series an accurate representation of what the community thinks? Or are the poll results the definite response to the question: What is best alternative SCM and code review for the JDK?

Stay tuned for further updates!

How it all started

Project Skara was launched by the JDK team in order to investigate alternatives for JDK source code management, that’s been using Mercurial repositories since 2008.

The reason behind the initiation of this project was the idea to help OpenJDK contributors be more productive. In his mail, JDK developer and OpenJDK reviewer Joe Darcy wrote:

In order to help OpenJDK contributors be more productive, both seasoned committers and relative newcomers, the Skara project proposes to investigate alternative SCM and code review options for the JDK source code, including options based upon Git rather than Mercurial, and including options hosted by third parties.

According to the same source, “the Skara project intends to build prototypes of hosting the JDK 12 sources under different providers”.

Joe also listed evaluation criteria that are to be considered. He urged, however, the contributors not to limit themselves to these criteria which include:

  • Performance: time for clone operations from master repos, time of  local operations, etc
  • Space efficiency: Usability in different geographies
  • Support for common development environments such as Linux, Mac, and Windows
  • Able to easily host the entire history of the JDK and the projected growth of its history over the next decade
  • Support for general JDK code review practices
  • Programmatic APIs to enable process assistance and automation of  review and processes

Joe also made it clear that “changing the bug tracking system is out of scope for this project and is not under consideration”.

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That wrapped up the nature of the project and the proposed changes. Let’s head over to the discussion.

It’s the “old vs. new” battle

The opinions of the participants to the discuss mailing list seem to have been split into two groups: There are those who find a potential transition from Mercurial to Git to be more convenient, as well as those who hardly see the benefits of such a transition.

Both groups, however, seem to agree on one thing: If there are, indeed, any benefits to reap from a transition from Mercurial to Git, that can only happen if the processes for managing OpenJDK are also changed.

According to the responses in the discuss mailing list, contributing can be tricky without being hired into the JVM development team. But the choice of technology is not the biggest barrier to entry, according to one of the responses. “What we would need is a change of process if we are going to open up OpenJDK”.

What’s your take on the proposals made in Project Skara? Let us know with your vote below.

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Eirini-Eleni Papadopoulou
Eirini-Eleni Papadopoulou is the editor for Coming from an academic background in East Asian Studies, she decided that it was time to go back to her high-school hobby that was computer science and she dived into the development world. Other hobbies include esports and League of Legends, although she never managed to escape elo hell (yet), and she is a guest writer/analyst for competitive LoL at TGH.

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