Interview with Erkan Yanar

“Kubernetes will become lingua franca in 2018”

Dominik Mohilo
Erkan Yanar

“The momentum behind containers and Kubernetes shows no signs of slowing,” Alex Polvi wrote on the CoreOS blog two months ago. He’s not the only one who believes that Kubernetes will become one of this year’s biggest buzzwords. In the following interview, Erkan Yanar shares his 2018 predictions for containers.

Last year was exciting, especially for Docker technology. Docker open sourced its core piece, containerd, and donated it to the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF); its first major version was released shortly thereafter. CoreOS also donated their container manager rkt. to the CNFC while Kubernetes expanded its influence and officially became part of the Docker platform.

In this interview, Erkan Yanar talks about what else has been going on in 2017, container wise, and gives insight into what he thinks might happen this year in the world of Kubernetes & Co.


JAXenter: Hello Erkan and thank you for taking the time to talk to us. Let’s start with a brief review of 2017. What exactly was your personal IT highlight this past year?

Docker Inc. disappointed me last year.

Erkan Yanar: The DockerCon 2017, in Copenhagen. There I (surprisingly) learned that Docker is also a provider of a comprehensive nature for Infrastructure Solutions.

JAXenter: Which tool, language or technology did you discover in 2017 that you would advise others to take a look at? Maybe even recommend it?
Erkan Yanar: I wanted something for building up infrastructures and after a long time of hesitation, I discovered Terraform. It’s still a bit crude at times, but as an OS container, I am very keen on getting my hand on the LinuxKit. I do think that the next higher level will set Kubernetes as a standard and there is just too much going on to point out something specific, at the time.

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JAXenter: What was the biggest disappointment in the tech world in 2017 for you?

Erkan Yanar: Docker Inc. disappointed me. I do consider the split into an “Enterprise” and a “Community” version to be a tactical mistake. Thus, not only partners were ignored, but also the possibility to get a large part of the orchestration cake with the Docker Swarm Mode (Kubernetes is the undisputed winner here) was missed by Docker Inc.
Docker Inc.’s features are only available in the enterprise version, while Kubernetes’ features are “out of the box” available. In my opinion, this is a strategic mistake. I also tried in vain to find out what the roadmap for the Docker Swarm (Mode) looks like. I was not successful here either.

Personally, I think it’s a pity because the Docker Swarm (Mode) is a nice and manageable way to orchestrate for Docker.

JAXenter: What do you want to focus on this year?

Erkan Yanar: Honestly? I finally want to learn to Go.

JAXenter: Which technology trend will become particularly important in 2018?

Erkan Yanar: I think we will learn to think of Kubernetes as an infrastructure. Kubernetes will be the Lingua Franca in and into which everything moves.


Dominik Mohilo
Dominik Mohilo studied German and sociology at the Frankfurt University, and works at S&S Media since 2015.

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