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CloudBees' CEO on Hudson/Jenkins

CloudBees’ Stance on the Hudson Name-Change

Jessica Thornsby

Sacha Labourey complains of an unfair “asymmetry” in the Hudson community.

Sacha Labourey of CloudBees has posted his thoughts on the current Hudson/Jenkins stalemate. He sees the Hudson community as suffering from an “asymmetry:’ Oracle own the brand and every other contributor has to sign a contributor agreement in order to gain a copyright license. Labourey does not have issue with this asymmetry, pointing out that this is common in many projects, such as JBoss and Glassfish. The sticking point for him is that, in his opinion, the “owner” of this asymmetry contribute little IP to the project, but gain lots of free IP from the Hudson contributors. Although Labourey claims to trust the Oracle representative he has been negotiating with, and Adam Bayer supports this by blogging that recent talks with Oracle have been “fruitful,” there is still no guarantee that Oracle will not force through decisions for Hudson in the future. Bayer has referred to this as “living under a sword of Damocles,” something the Hudson team are not too keen on.

“So, what was the right decision? Was it be better for the community to keep investing its time and energy in the existing brand, and take the risk that it could fire back at some point in the future or was it better to “sanitize” the situation upfront and invest those efforts in building a new brand, hence removing the asymmetry that currently exists in the community?” says Sacha Labourey.

The next move is down to Oracle, who are slated to release a proposal on the future of Hudson “later this week.” Oracle can either continue working on their project under the Hudson brand, or participate in Jenkins. Labourey encourages Oracle to opt for Jenkins, as has Bayer, even offering Oracle representative Winston Prakash a place on Jenkins’ interim governance board, should they decide to get involved.

Labourey also takes this opportunity to clarify that CloudBees does not intend to replace Oracle as the “asymmetry” in the Jenkins community. “CloudBees has no intention to own the trademark on the new brand, to own the IP of the project or anything else,” he says.

The move has the support of James Gosling, who blogged that the Hudson community have been patient in their efforts to resolve the dispute with Oracle, but “given Oracle’s character” an outcome like this was inevitable. “Oracle is certainly consistent in maintaining their reputation,” he concludes.

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